By Nikolaj (213.197.5.40) on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 12:40 am:

I recently lowered my second generation up front. I just got it, so this was the first time I took the wheels off. I noticed a kind of rubber flange on my longest driveshaft.?! When asking someone about it he said it should be on my first generation as well. It also looked to be positioned between my shock/upright and the lower bar (now what's that name again?) and so was probably holding the shaft back. I can't think of a real use for this part, so does anyone know what iit's for??? I like to rip out parts that are of no use!
BTW: I have a 1300"S", which has about 70hp/52kW.
What kind of top-speed should I be doing. I started with 140kmh, I'm now at 155kmh after replacing all vacume-hoses and the intake-rubbers.
Still, that's not enough to call it a Sport, is it?
Thanx.

By Adrian (Civicguru) (203.42.97.227) on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 01:36 am:

I've never seen an EB driveshaft with one of those things on it, only EN1 shafts.
The only thing I can imagne it is is a vibration damper (anybody know for sure?). It does not do anything in the way of holding the driveshaft in place or anything like that, it's attached solely to the driveshaft and should touch nothing else.
Honda put it there for a reason, so I'd leave it be (it does no harm).

By the "lower bar" I assume you mean the lower control arm.

Are you saying it'll only do 155km/h flat out?? If that's all it'll do it isn't running right! If it was putting out 70hp it should be able to easily do a lot more than that.

By Todd (63.52.4.44) on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 03:09 am:

That rubber piece is simply for ease of installation. When installing that axle, you just line up the inboard shaft and pop that rubber piece and it will slip right into place.

By Nikolaj (195.240.204.141) on Saturday, June 02, 2001 - 02:56 pm:

How much do you think it should do?? I was actually counting on somewhere around 170..
I have new ignition parts, new rubbers/hoses round the intake. I'll check on my valve-to-cam-gaps (how do you say that in english?) next. Yes, I meant the lower control arm. I have now moved the piece of rubber more to the engine.. After lowering there was no noticable difference in top speed, the ride is way better though. And btw, the suspension is much easier to work on...
I'm starting to love my second generation allready!!!

By Nikolaj (213.197.5.15) on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 09:36 pm:

Today I couldn't get her over 145...
The engine runs really well, though... It start superbly with a pinch of choke, and then smoothly idles at around 750 rpm. It's when I get over 4000 rpms that I really miss power. It's like there's either not enough fuel or air getting inside. That's the way it feels to me...
Could this be a faulty fuelpump, not being able to keep up on high speed?
Thanx for any response...

By Adrian (Civicguru) (203.42.97.227) on Sunday, June 03, 2001 - 09:43 pm:

Yes, it certainly could be a dead fuel pump as at those sorts of speeds you need quite a bit of fuel. I've had a similar thing happen with a mechanical pump where the car just wouldn't do more than 120 before it started to miss and sputter. Is it a mechanical or electric pump?

By Nikolaj (213.197.5.132) on Tuesday, June 05, 2001 - 01:27 am:

It's a mechanical one, of which I thought it would either work or not work... It doesn't start sputtering or anything, it just doesn't rev, and there's not even an increasing noise from under the hood, as you expect from a car that can't quite take the gearing. I experienced this on an old 1200 with 5 speed, the engine couldn't get it over 4800 rpms in fifth. But a good running 1300 with the gearing designed for it should not have this problem. So the pump is an option... Well, thanx for this advise, I was kind of out of ideas.
Oh yeah, now that I remember...I once cornered the car hard to the right, keeping the throttle to the ground. It suddenly just stopped getting fuel, untill I was in a straight line, when it picked up again... After this I never had that again, but it may be related to this problem. But logic tells me there should be enough fuel in the carbs to get through the corner, so this may be a carb-problem. Aaaaargh.
Hoping to find what is causing all this, and thanking all who have wisdom to share....!!

By Adrian (Civicguru) (203.42.97.227) on Tuesday, June 05, 2001 - 01:48 am:

Fuel starvation around right hand corners is ABSOLUTELY STANDARD. At decent speeds it's really bad with a single carb (engine practically stops), with twins it just happens at a higher speed. As far as I know there is no way to fix it, other than putting on injection, quads or maybe a weber (at least I've never found out how and I've had people who really know what they are talking about ask me if I've found the solution.)

By Nikolaj (195.241.220.150) on Tuesday, June 05, 2001 - 02:31 pm:

Yes, I vaguely remember a discussion on this problem, but it was probably a few years ago..
I switched fuel-pumps today, it had some weird Italian pump on it, now I have the original pump off a 1300 that drove well. It drives better, is better on the revs, but it's still way from what it should be like! When I opened up the valvecover I noticed everything had a very brownish colour, indicating a long standstill!
I am now out of ideas external to the engine.
So has anyone still got any??

By Nikolaj (213.197.4.173) on Saturday, June 09, 2001 - 01:32 am:

I have now finally found the problem... It was when finding the fuel filter on the rear of the car (what a great place for maintanance)! Well hell, along with that, I found some holes in this cars underneath that could be called caves!! I have never seen a car look this good on the outside, yet secretly be this rotten.. So I'm gonna get back to my original plan I think, which is to strip this here car for my first gen.. I still think it's a pity, being a pretty rare model and all.... Though my first gen looks bad on the outside, compared to the newer, it is an honest car and doesn't have any secrets for me!
At least I now have all the EN parts I need/want. I recently bought brake pads, and they are also supposedly for the Accord Aerodeck... I found this hard to believe, but it's these brakes that I am going to mount to the old civic...
BTW: I never knew discs were actually easy to replace, as is with the newer construction, wish they'd thought of that 10 years earlier!