Its there you just have to look in the store or e-mail

By Chris Elder (211.29.136.12) on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 09:21 pm:

Don, i went to http://www.whiteline.com.au/
and i could only find suspension for late model civics?

By Kurt (66.183.137.163) on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 08:40 pm:

Just a Q....if you cut 1.5 loops out is there any problems with the spring not seating in the little groove/divet on the strut?

By Puff (24.81.181.104) on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 07:34 pm:

My car has cut springs. I cut out exactly 1 1/2 rings off front and rear. Lowered the car by about 2 inches. The back rode fine but the front was just to soft and rode like a rock. Put in a set of cut wagon front springs and it rode just fine. It still rode hard over large bumps but it was acceptable considering the look I was working for.

By Colza (Colza) (219.88.32.201) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 01:05 am:

Interesting find from this weekend:
If you want VERY firm springs go for cut down legend springs. Same diameter but if you cut them so they are still captive you will actually raise the car slightly.

By sonymmx200 (68.8.198.222) on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 12:03 am:

I'm very nervous to cut the springs on my 77 or 78 civic CVCC. I guess I could risk the quality of ride since I found another CVCC at the wrecking yard. Worst case scenario, I can install original springs again. How much do I cut to drop it 2" inches? One full circle, two circles, half circle?

By glen (203.220.225.161) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 06:54 am:

Thanks for all the replies. I guess I will put some stock springs back in for now.

By Zippy (Zippy) (12.106.14.107) on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 06:49 am:

I've got to step in.
Heating the whole spring to lower the car will ruin the spring. The steel in the spring is carefully engineered. Heating it totally changes the characterisics of the metal. Have you ever heard the term "spring steel", well that's because it's different from mild steel. When you heat the spring to about 1200 degrees farenheight the change happens and you have soft bendable steel.

As far as bending the top loop of the cut spring, well that seems OK to me. I did it on my car. Assuming you keep the heat on just the top loop, the rest of the spring should maintain it's quality.

By Don (199.2.139.214) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:31 pm:

Nope CVcc Wagon springs and CVCC springs are about the same. You can use cut CVCC springs on the 1200's to gain a bit. Whiteline suspension is who you need to talk to they have premade lowering springs for early civics and bushings to rebuld some of the rotted rubber. The have a web store and they are in OZ. Shipping by mail is not realy that bad if its sent economy post.

http://www.whiteline.com.au/

By sonymmx200 (68.8.198.222) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:41 pm:

There's a company down here in San diego that told me it would run about $500.00 do drop my car 2" front and back. It would be coil over springs and I'm still debating if it's worth doing this. I'd hate to cut the springs and have a terrible ride. I'd read on here in another posting that the CVCC springs from a station wagon would lower the CVCC hatchback a bit, anyone know if this is true?

By Don (199.2.139.162) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:27 pm:

Guess what happens to the temper on heated springs? It is gone... your springs are very week. Its Ok if you want to look like a dope in the parking lot and on the Autox course.

By Don (199.2.139.162) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:26 pm:

Guess what happens to the temper on heated springs? It is gone... your spings are very week. Its Ok if you want to look like a dope in the parking lot and on the Autox course.

By Al B (66.222.252.147) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 08:03 pm:

Forget cutting, When I was in high school we used to put jack stands or wood or whatever we had laying around, under the "frame". (Just leave the amount of space that you want to Drop.) Then heat up the springs and watch the car come on down. The car would rest on the jack stands, wood etc while the springs cooled, you just can't get crazy with the heat tho. The ride wasn't that smooth, but it was cheap. Ha ha

By Don (199.2.139.231) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 06:44 pm:

Max? What could bounce around? First of all no civic has bump stops that Ive seen unless your talking about the rubber pieces on the struts.
Second no one should lower the car that much as it ruins all sorts of engineering. Your Civic would have no supension and lots of bump steer problems. Even a mild lowering job may require camber caster plates to fix some angles so why ruin a car by cutting out the spring until there is no suspension left. If it were that low you could throw the spring away as your right it would rattle and serve no use.

By Max (Max) (67.162.184.219) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:57 pm:

It could possibly bounce around if it's riding on the bump stops. That's only if it lowered a lot though

By Colza (Colza) (219.88.30.39) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 09:13 pm:

I have once sent a car in for a warrant forgetting to take the chopped springs out. They were only in cos the car had been off the road for a while, we were bored, and there was an angle grinder sitting just there....

I looked shocked when it failed and he pointed out that if you pulled the wheel-arches up far enough, you could get the springs to unseat by hand!

By Don (199.2.139.158) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 06:08 pm:

Colza Is that talking from experience? ....Honest officer..... the speedometer is broken!

By Colza (Colza) (219.88.31.21) on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 04:42 pm:

Zip ties? CLASSY!!!
I wonder if you could get that through a warrant saying that the spring ws still held captive...

By DåRl{ (66.50.181.176) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 08:20 am:

Ok will check,Thanx.

By Don (199.2.139.218) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 06:52 am:

No heat destroys the temper of a spring so you have to use an air or electric cut off wheel to do the shortening and leave the end. If it realy bothers you you could grind the end flat using a grinder if you dont generate more heat. This would involve grinding a little then resting to cool. Rattling spings can cause a bunch of damage in any type of motorsport. Ted used to zip tie his in place. The best way is to shorten the total length of the strut, that way the spring is still held tight.
http://autoracer.net/hon1.html
Check the steps in the ITC suspension areas

By DåRl{ (66.50.181.176) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 06:23 am:

I would like to know that too.Thanx.

By glen (203.220.224.106) on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 05:16 am:

When cutting springs, do you bend the end of the spring to the same as it was originally? I have cut the last loop off mine and it bounces around a lot. I thought heating the end of the coil to bend it down so it sits flat might help. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks.