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I'm aware of the CVCC vs. Civic thing... thanks...

As far as the engine goes, I felt like it was a little sluggish and now I know why. They basically choked it in 75-76 to deal with what was then, new emission laws. I have this memory of my 76 1200 hundred (bought on the east coast when I was 17) being REALLY responsive... of course, that's a long time ago and I've driven a whole lot of REAL fast cars since... but this one feels kinda soft below 3000 rpm.

I took it in for a tune up and the mechanic (Honda specialty place here in LA)made a big deal of what great shape the car is in. I hope some plugs and points wake it up a little.

I'm not going to mess with the motor too much till it becomes smog exempt in about 18 months... If I still think it needs, I'll do some motor stuff then... carb, headers, exhaust, head... Till then it's body, paint, sound, etc and just enjoy it.

Peace

J

By Don (199.2.139.214) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:38 pm:

The 1500 CVCC is the LEAST desireable Civic engine. There is a reason Jackson and A/T sold EL heads to bolt on to CVCC short blocks. In CA you have the smog police so that maybe out for you.

By Jacob (67.171.196.144) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:21 pm:

Um, I think Josh is missing something crucial here. CVCC is the engine, not the car. There was available the Honda Civic 1200 (available for two years before the CVCC engine was introduced), or the Honda Civic CVCC. The CVCC is a stratified charge head design. All CVCC's were 1500's (1G). 1200's are a flow-thru head design, none of which had the stratified engine charge system.

Just figured I'd throw that out as lots of people think the name "Civic" was derived from people trying to pronounce CVCC.

By Jonathan (68.193.10.141) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 07:45 pm:

Well, all 75-79 CVCC's were 1500's. California only got the CVCC from 75-79, and the 1200 from 73-74. The 1200's weren't CVCC engines.

By josh caine (Caine) (67.123.198.21) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 07:41 pm:

Thanks all... she's a 1500... woo hoo! ED3 stamp on the engine plate and apparently ALL california 76 CVCC's were 1500's... so there you have it.

Thanks again!

By lazy (210.50.30.20) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:10 pm:

on the block where it meets the transmission. There should be a flat on the firewall/bulkhead side with the engine number stamped in.

By Jonathan (66.252.173.251) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:36 am:

Josh, there's a good description of the differences here:

http://www.1stgencivic.com/what_is_what.htm

By Jason (Roadwarrior) (24.80.29.179) on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 01:52 am:

Um... where is the engine number located on the block for the 1200?

By Don (199.2.139.214) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 09:47 pm:

If the exhaust manifold is underneath the intake manifold its probably a 1500

By josh caine (Caine) (67.120.27.86) on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 09:21 pm:

I don't want to sound stupid but I just got a 76 CVCC Civic coupe... factory 5 speed, guages, etc.
I think it's a 1200 but the guy I bought it from says it's a 1500...

How do I know for sure?

Thanks