i’m keeping an eye open for a good first gen, for now it's goen into the 83 wagon.
Frank, yes i did have then take a little bit of the head, .02 in i think it was. and the block was just decked so it was flat.
btw i have some new pics from today with the head and valve cover on.

By Frankaj (Frankaj) (4.242.9.155) on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 07:45 pm:

Very nice! Did you take any extra off the head for a little more squeeze or just make sure things were flat?

By Justin (199.60.112.10) on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 11:05 am:

All you need now is a 1st gen to stuff it into

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (24.86.60.160) on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 10:35 am:

well i got my head and block back from the machine shop on wed. this week. here are some pictures from the other day. since then i have assembled the bottom end.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/after_machine_shop

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (24.86.60.160) on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 03:32 pm:

the runners are 35mm ID so it does taper a little bit from carb to head (the head side being about 32mm)

By Bryan (66.245.83.186) on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 03:18 pm:

It's hard for me to tell by the pics, but the runners look like the same size from the carbs to the head. If this is the case, then it would really benefit from some hand porting. A properly designed intake is tapered from the carbs to the head port. It should be a funnel effect.

The welds look good and the runners look thick enough to acomplish this. It should run great with those new carbs!

I hope this helps

Bryan

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (24.86.60.160) on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 10:45 am:

thats no problem. i have a paper template too with all the hole centers too

By Kyle Thomson (24.83.12.187) on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 12:01 am:

Thats looking cherry Andrew, I hope you don't plan on throwing that wood piece out, I may have to swing by and trace that out myself

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 10:34 pm:

what engine is the header for? are you using the stock cam?

By 1300dx (24.251.49.100) on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 10:32 pm:

That's looking great!! I'm getting all excited about duplicating it!!!I had gathered all the parts but was still holding out for finding one pre-made. After seeing yours I'm all-out to build one for myself. When I get it done, I guess I'll have to install the headers and adjustable cam pully I also have!!!!

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 09:16 pm:

i've been busy this weekend. i ported the inside and cleaned up the outside. scroll down to the bottom, i have a pic with the carbs mounted and one of the wood template for kyle
http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/weber_manifold

By 1300dx (24.251.49.100) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 09:00 pm:

I have found a local machine shop that can weld one up for me. I took the old Toyota (Cannon) manifold and sliced off the carb side after bolting it to a 1/4" sheet of plywood to maintain the proper spacing. I am cutting off the intake flange off my spare stk intake now, it is a hard slog using a hacksaw! I will be able to use the tubes from the Toyota manifold once I angle them to fit. I will bolt the intake side to a piece of plywood then use some threaded rod to position the two pieces while I cut and fit the tubes. I think this will work!!

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 02:15 pm:

yes, i made a template off the carbs and transferred that to a pice of 3/4 plywood, i took some measurements to determine the proper distance between the two carbs for the butterfly linkage and drew something up to bridge the two together (a lot easier to align one piece than two when welding it together) when i had my plywood moc-up the way i liked it i transferred it to the 1/2" aluminum and cut the bulk of it away on a band saw (set up for aluminum at work) to do the final trim i used a router bit in a drill press and used the plywood as a template. this is the step in he process that could have gone better, the bit i got did not handle the alloy very well so it ended up giving me a pretty rough cut which i ended up cleaning up with a belt sander. the holes i drilled with an angular cut bit at work (like a hole saw but not...) i used the same kind of bit to drill out the ports on the head side.

By Kyle Thomson (24.83.12.187) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 01:30 pm:

how exactly DID you make the carb side? I'm assuming you had the carbs already to know the shape/measurments?

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 01:09 pm:

well you would have to make both flanges which will be difficult with stainless. i cut the stock manifold on the head side which was easy enough, making the one for the carb side took quite a bit of work but if i had to do it again i would probably get it laser cut somewhere which would be an option for you. other issues i see are weight, my aluminum one is quite light but having two 1/2" stainless flanges will be quite heavy. also porting it would become a task as well, i will post pics of mine after porting later (still have some grinding to do yet) but i have taken out quite a bit of material. so all in all i would be prepared for quite a bit of work and a heavy final result.

By Jarcaf (Jarcaf) (207.55.238.216) on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 10:53 am:

Do you suppose one of those can be made w/ stainless and polished up? I've got an uncle who welds Al, Stainless, and other difficulties but would it even be feasible to try it?

By Kurt (205.250.75.226) on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 11:10 am:

That was me!

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 08:58 pm:

greg tingler, not going to make another, too many man hours.
lazy, for the brake booster vacuum line i will tap a hole and put a fitting onto the no. 1 runner. not going to bother with the distributor one.
kurt, i have spoken with the guys at overseas and i'm told that i will only have to change the main jet to a slightly larger one. the carbs currently have this jetting:
28mm choke, F16, 112 main jet,210 air jet and 50 F11 idle jet.
and yes, it was probably me at the show, i spoke with kyle and someone else who's name i didn't get.

By Ted (63.224.195.169) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 01:38 pm:

Beefy! Nice work.

By Kurt (205.250.75.226) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 12:59 pm:

Thats nice...it looks my At Engineering intake

Vaccuum line are not necessary as the Dellortos and I'm sure the Weber side drafts have none! The only one you could tap in there would be for the brake booster. I have ran mine with it disconnected though and the brakes work just fine, in fact Don has removed his booster all together.

My Dellortos have a small line coming off the base for the Vaccuum advance but I notice no difference with it disconnected.

Andrew, it must have been you that Dana and I spoke to at the show. If your looking or carbs I hae a contact that can get them and jet them perfectly.

- Kurt

By lazy (165.228.57.19) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 06:49 am:

I agree, very nice. What about vacuum fittings?

By greg tingler (Tropic81) (141.153.93.43) on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 06:22 am:

Wow! Nice job. Would you be interested in making an intake like that for an EK1? If so, how much?

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 08:17 pm:

well first off, i only had them weld the manifold. i did all the fabrication and tacked it together for them. (i only have access to a wire feed MIG welder and it wouldn't stick to the casting of the cut manifold very well) the tube i used is 35mm i.d. and about 44mm o.d. so that would make about a 4.5mm sidewall. the gasket to gasket measurement is about 4 1/2 in. (at the center of the runner) the welding cost me $80 CDN. the phone number at RYM is 604 278 7833 and they are located beside NAPA auto parts on Minoru in richmond but again, they did not do the fabrication so dont call them up asking them to make one of those manifolds

By 1300dx (24.251.49.100) on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:34 pm:

Awesome! That's exactly what I need to do! Do you have their phone # ? I have an extra intake to cut apart and an extra aluminum weber manifold from a Toyota that can be used. What is the measurement gasket to gasket? What guage tubing did they use? How much $$ if I dare ask??

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:03 pm:

oh, i forgot to mention, it's for an 82/83 EL head. maybe now i can actually get this project finished

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.125.123) on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 06:51 pm:

well i got my manifold back from the welders today. (RYM Propeller in Richmond) it's looking pretty good so far, it needs to be ported yet and the outside should be cleaned up and polished as well. i cut the stock manifold to get the bracket and made the plate on the carb side.

here is a link to the gallery.
http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/weber_manifold