By Jarcaf (Jarcaf) (207.55.238.216) on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 02:20 pm: |
Thanks for the info John
By cody_guldstrand@hotmail.com (Turbo74) (4.46.69.173) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 09:37 pm: |
for my poly engine mount, the rubber was drilled out and the poly was pressed in. and for the tranny mount, i called 4 honda dealer, and i have been to every single parts warehouses and no one has or shows part numbers for the tranny mount. i am going to make poly ones where i work and see if i can make a couple for anyone who needs them.
By John S. (66.143.46.86) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 05:17 pm: |
Don,
It's true you don't normally need to machine anything, as it is basically a casting process. But if you want to modify an available piece to fit in place of a part not available off the shelf, or if you want to machine reveals into existing bushings to allow you to grease them(squeaky clean), then it is info worth knowing, I would think.
Cody, does it look like they removed all the rubber from the old housing and pressed an existing poly bushing in, or do you think the poly was cast in place? I think if we can gain enough knowledge about this process then it might be possible to make poly parts to replace all the motor mounts and flexible suspension pieces that may eventually be impossible to get from Honda. If Honda now wants 60.00 for one of those lower mounts...(I KNOW I paid them 24.00 for the last one I bought from them not over two years ago), well then there is a lot of leeway in terms of fabrication costs. I myself of course would never put forth the proposition that they are becoming larcenous greedy bastards.
By Don (199.2.139.170) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 12:43 pm: |
Its not hard, you dont machine anything just poor the liquid poly into the area you want to fill then let sit....Done deal For an engine mount thats all thats needed. Noltect makes the stay rod mount use mine for two seasons still looks new.
By Chaffneue (Chaffneue) (66.183.190.188) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 11:39 am: |
I posted all the prices for the whiteline suspension bushing set through a distributor in canada about 3 weeks ago when i was scouting for prices. here's the link.
http://tinyurl.com/64u2n
-Richard
By cody_guldstrand@hotmail.com (Turbo74) (4.46.69.173) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 11:35 am: |
www.deeeng.com
By cody_guldstrand@hotmail.com (Turbo74) (4.46.69.173) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 11:32 am: |
dee engineering. at the shop i work at we make tranny and enginie mounts for fieros. and we get all of our polyurethane from dee engineering. and Don i already have a poly engine mount. from what i have it looks like someone took the stock mount drilled the rubber out and put a poly bushing in, and it works
By John S. (68.91.80.144) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:45 am: |
Jarcaf.
The Nolethane website has some interesting info on machining polyurethane, which is probably what you are looking for.
By Don (199.2.139.161) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 05:52 am: |
What are you talking about "setting the holes"
Do a web search it will turn up info on how to make bushings.
By Jarcaf (Jarcaf) (207.55.238.216) on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 01:56 am: |
Can you use a hotwire to cut poly? Seems like drilling wouldn't do jack to set the holes.
By Don (199.2.139.151) on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 11:39 pm: |
Its not bad from whiteline direct. The web store has the numbers. I was going to make the left motor mount myself out of Poly no one makes that one to my knowlege.
By sdcvcc (68.101.197.93) on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 11:35 pm: |
well. there is price. regional availability.
I guess since it is stuff I need for myself, naturally I want to make it myself. Maybe make some extras for others in need.
By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 10:30 pm: |
Why reinvent the wheel, yet again? You can buy bushes off the shelf from Noltec or Whiteline. There was also a distributor someone came across that sells Whiteline stuff in Canada if I remember rightly.
By sdcvcc (68.101.197.93) on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 10:19 pm: |
Among other ideas for 1G/2G parts I am thinking about a small run of replacement bushings in both OEM hardness rubber, and polyurethane material. We work with urethane casting materials already, and I have contacted our supplier and they say they have materials in many varying stiffness and durablility.
I am planning a rear disk swap and frontend rebuild and I would like replacment bushings when I do this. The way I will do this, is make tooling in the right diameter and depth. The material is either injected or simply mixed and poured. The rubber will be considerably tougher than OEM rubber, and the poly will be adjustable in its stiffness.
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