My negative cable was loose, but I disconnected and reconnected, the started still didn't start. After waiting 30 minutes, even while listening to my CD player inside, the started kicked in. Weird, my mechanic has the car, he'll check the starter and see if I need a need a new one. Thanks for the advice guys.

By jms (150.113.26.4) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 12:40 pm:

sony your battery terminals need to be cleaned and tighten that is all

By Chaffneue (Chaffneue) (66.183.190.188) on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 01:47 am:

Could be loose battery terminals.. like they won't look loose, but you'll be about 1/2 a turn from happiness. It's happened to me a few times usually just after I've reconnected the battery..

-Richard

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 11:11 pm:

Oh, for who ever is interested, I finaly posted one of my deluxe guages on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7960007583&category=33675

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 11:09 pm:

THe darn think started up every time this weekend. It's not my battery cuase it's brand new and I check the voltage. It's good. No loose wires and all fuses are good. Every time I turn the key, there's started sound. This has happened to me three times already. What I do, is just relax for 30 minutes, listen to music and then try to start it. It will start again. I'll be taking the car in to put my 5 speed in this Wednesday, I'm gona ask my mechanic to check the starter, thanks guys.

By bruce (4.159.56.216) on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 08:10 am:

no its not new but I will make sure it works

By Darrell--Arizona-- (68.109.151.121) on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 06:09 am:

Many times the starter solenoid will go bad. The solinoid is just a big relay and the contacts get dirty. I haven't looked at the civic solenoids, but I have repaired others. If you are going to toss out the old one, you have nothing to loose. Give it a try..... Take apart the solenoid and clean the contacts.

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 06:36 pm:

Bruce, you have a new one for only $10.00 plus shipping? If that's the case, give me your paypal account, I'll make payment on this item. Just ask John, i'm good for it. Otherwise, I'll go to the wrecking yard and buy a used one. It's 59.00 at Autozone.

By bruce (4.159.179.125) on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 03:36 pm:

sony, go to the auto parts store and just get one, they are still available....or if ya really need one 10 bucks and shipping

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 02:53 pm:

I need a starter for my 78 Honda Civic CVCC, anyone know if I can use a 1980 Starter or even a 1976-1981 Accord Starter for my Civic?

By John Le (Lilbucu) (24.19.198.100) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:15 pm:

sorry i spelt you name wrong.

By John Le (Lilbucu) (24.19.198.100) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:09 pm:

got the clutch change kit all packaged up and ready to go rodger, just need your info and other goodies!

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:26 pm:

John, I just sent you and e-mail, please verify that I sent it to the correct address.
Roger

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:15 pm:

Oh, I was planning on posting one of the deluxe guages on Ebay, look for it this Sunday evening around 9pm.
Roger

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:14 pm:

John, you are a pal for helping me out. I appreciate it. Thanks again and please let me know when you send me to goods.
Roger

By Vccivic (24.85.232.159) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 01:19 pm:

quick question....if Bruce can't hook me up with his deluxe gauges, any luck on getting one of those benched units in the photo. I would love to have a tach.....

By sony (205.188.116.199) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 11:50 am:

Oh, call me and leave a message on my phone if you have the whole kit. I'm going to get the fly wheel and after to my mechanic. So please call me ASAP at 619-256-1568. Leave a price and message if you have the whole kit. My name is Roger

By sony (205.188.116.199) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 11:48 am:

How much for the clutch kit? My mechanic tol dme to that he was going to order a new clutch, new clutch over, new throw-out bearing..... do you have all of this and if so, how much?
sonymmx200@aol.com

By John Le (Lilbucu) (128.208.36.50) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 10:55 am:

if you need a honda OEM clutch, i have a brand new one that i'm not useing that i could sell to you, let me know.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:09 pm:

I got a 5speed tranny, I got a 5speed tranny, I got a 5speed tranny. na na na na na, na na na na na.........
Just found me a 5speed tranny for my wagon. Now it's going to get hooked up and no more High RPM's. Even my mechanic was surprized that I found one. Took me 2 hours to get it off, but it was worth all the nicks, cuts and effort. Everything came off as a complete unit, the main tranny, the shift assembly, the shifter. Took the pressure plate, plate cover and clutch. Came off a 77 Honda Civic Hatchback. I'll post pictures once project gets going and done.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:12 pm:

Left the blue wire unpluged and then plug it in, nothing happends and I'm doing this as I'm driving about 60mph on the freeway, there's no difference.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:11 pm:

Weird, I left it unpluged and the Tach works perfect. Also, two of my four Tachs don't have that blue wire.

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:08 pm:

That's the signal wire to the tacho (i.e. the wire that goes to the coil and lets the tacho read the ignition pulses).

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 10:00 pm:

Ok, I have a question regarding the Deluxe guages. I just noticed that some Tach/Speedometer guages have blue wire. Does anyone know what this blue wire does? I left it unpluged and it doesn't affect anything. Anyone have a clue?

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 05:25 pm:

Wow, just as I am posting this photo where the Speedometer is close to 100mph, there's a CHP officer drinking some coffee next to me. The photo of the 100mph speedo is from my 78 Silver Hatchback Civic CVCC. It has a 4speed, I would never push my hondamatic pass 80mph. Still, I'm looking for a 5speed to put in my wagon.

By Vccivic (24.85.232.159) on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 04:31 pm:

that is a great pic...nice work

By jms (65.1.117.51) on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 04:08 pm:

you need a 5 speed ASAP and keep down those RPMs

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 03:41 pm:

Check out this pic. Keeping up with an ambulance

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 03:31 pm:

Well, here's a photo of my Tach working on my Hondamatic.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 11:56 pm:

Adrian, you were right. Engine doesn't care if you have hondamatic, 4 speed or 5 speed. I knew the wiring was in there, but I wasn't sure the Tack would work. It works awsome. It's nice to have those deluxe guages on my wagon. Only other option that I don't have is AC ( I don't want it ) bumper over-riders and still looking for that 5speed trany.

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 09:15 pm:

A tacho doesn't know or care what type of gearbox you have attached to the engine. All it does is display engine revolutions per minute.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 09:06 pm:

I knew that the wires were there for the Hondamatics, but I thought just because honda wanted to standardize everything. I didn't think the Tachometer would work with the automatic tranny. I'll be installing it in my wagon and see how it works. Is the Tach accurate on 2nd and 1st gears though?

By felipe casanova (200.30.232.182) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 10:56 am:

i hope one day with the swap done be able to reach at least 215!

By Justin (24.85.53.81) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 08:47 am:

Felipe, it was in the wagon...it has a much better top end now, I upgraded to a better integra tranny.

By Jonathan (12.98.156.194) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 04:48 am:

Sony, the tachometer does work with a Hondamatic. I put one in mine, it was just plug in and go. I didn't even need to connect anything under the hood. You can keep your original speedometer if you want the shift points there too. There's a mention of what I did to install them here:
http://www.civic1200.com/discus/messages/1/5998.html?

By Kevin (Kman) (68.40.184.98) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 04:14 am:

Sony. It's supposed to work. I'll be putting a set on mine in the next couple of weeks (the wire is there). I'll let ya know.

By felipe casanova (200.30.232.182) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 10:14 pm:

yes kyle, this was last thursday with the 4 speed gearbox at 5800 rpm, the engine still wanna go more but i was afraid of valve overlap or any failure, with the 5 speed GJ the civic can reach 180km/h

P.s: justin you´re FAR of being stock!!! haha pretty impressive speed though! it was on the wagon, or the convertible?

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 09:27 pm:

i would imagine it works

as long as it has a wire that goes to the coil it should work just fine

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 09:24 pm:

Anyone ever install the deluxe gauages on a hondamatic Civic? Does that Tachometer work with Hondamatics or does it not read anything? There's only two speeds on the hondamatics, will it show the RPM's for the gears still?

By Justin (24.85.53.81) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 07:25 pm:

Here's my speedo on our RMNP tour in 2003

By Puff (24.69.255.203) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 07:13 pm:

I had mine (with the 1600 and 5 spd) up to the h...figure thats about 200 kph

By bwilborn (38.116.136.223) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 07:08 pm:

I was able to peg mine in my car with a MPH guage. I also have tracked my speed with a GPS and got well over 100+. I was however on a fairly busy stretch of road, so I didn't push it for too long.

-- B

By Kyle Thomson (24.83.29.123) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 05:37 pm:

Felipe, is that with a 4 speed by any chance? I have a pic of my car just about at top speed in 4th, and that almost exactly where my speedo shows. Can't wait to see what the 5spd is gonna do =)

By Kevin (Kman) (68.40.184.98) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 04:13 pm:

It's in kilometers/hour. 155kph = 96mph

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 03:47 pm:

I can't believe you are going 140mph. I've gone at least 110mph and posted pictures on here, but I also show the freeway and other traffic. The speedomoter you show could be broken. lol

By sony (208.54.15.129) on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 03:46 pm:

Most of those parts will go ranging from 5 buck to 20 bucks. It's been raining hard out in Southern California, kinda muddy everywhere. I won't get to that yard till next week when it's dry.

By felipe casanova (200.74.70.100) on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 03:53 pm:

Speaking about pics, well this was the maximum speed that i was able to make on my 1200 77 civic, it can go a little more faster, but i do appreciate my life with 175/70 r12 tires

By DaRk (66.50.182.84) on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 07:19 am:

Sony check how much for the driverside headlight cowl/ the cover that goes around the headlight

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 08:12 am:

It did have a passanger side mirror. I can't tell if it was a black one like the driver's side, but it looks well installed. Who ever took it, didn't take the mounting bracket or it probably broke as they were moving the car. The driver's side is chipped and I prefer the chrome ones. As for the seats, they are torn. Bumpers? I don't know how much they would charge for those. I'll ask and post on here after I talk to them. There's also two junked wagons, but I can't use any parts. They are both from 75 so they don't have to good brakes and pretty rusted out. No 5 speeds either I'll keep searching for a 5 speed. Bruce, how much for the pedal set and for a good working 5 speed tranny with the shifter and linkage?

By Kurt (205.250.75.226) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 09:29 pm:

looks like it had a passenger side mirror at one time

By Vccivic (24.85.232.159) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 04:37 pm:

i would love the bumpers , turn signals, that front chrome strip where the signals attach and front seats if there black and in good shape. Let me know if you could pull them or not and I will pay to ship em up here to vancouver, and some for your troubles...

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 03:09 pm:

I'm not interested in the car. I'm sure the wrecking yard will sell it. They are selling other cars. Oh, that yellow civic is missing the Gauge cluster since it had the tach and the deluxe gas/temp gagues.

By Darrell--Arizona-- (68.109.151.121) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:54 pm:

Sony are you in CA? Maybe you could ask the yard if they would sell it. I'm not interested, but others might be.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:33 pm:

I saw this cute Civic at the wrecking yard. I can't see why it's there though. It's very complete. Engine and 5speed trany are still in it. I check the clutch, it's shot. I bet the person that owned it, just decided not to fix it cause a clutch for these cars is difficult to find. Anyway, so sad to see it in the wrecking yard. No dents anywhere and all the glass is perfect. Color is faded, interior is torn, but too bad the car has met it's end.

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:33 pm:

Ok, what's going on here?

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:29 pm:

Lets try again,

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:28 pm:

Lets try again,

By sony (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:26 pm:

I saw this cute Civic at the wrecking yard. I can't see why it's there though. It's very complete. Engine and 5speed trany are still in it. I check the clutch, it's shot. I bet the person that owned it, just decided not to fix it cause a clutch for these cars is difficult to find. Anyway, so sad to see it in the wrecking yard. No dents anywhere and all the glass is perfect. Color is faded, interior is torn, but too bad the car has met it's end.

By sonymmx200 (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:20 pm:

Anyone have any good ideas for side and rear Skirts?

By sonymmx200 (68.7.165.149) on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 02:17 pm:

Ok, got my flares and air dam painted white. I have to admit they make the wagon look cleaner, newer also. I don't have any problems clearing most tire stops either, but I still keep my distance from curves.

By shreck (24.112.121.191) on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 08:26 pm:

Hey man those look like a perfect fit, gives it a nice touch with the wider tires. Be sure to post the pics when you geter done.

By sonymmx200 (205.188.116.199) on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 10:50 pm:

Thanks for the compliments on my wagon. I've had the complete motor rebuild by a Honda Service tech that used to work on these cars in the 70's. My plans are the paint the grill, flares and dam white. I'll post photos when I'm done with them.

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 02:09 am:

Update

The EC motor has the same Intake and Exhaust Manifolds as the EL motor.

The head is really badly warpd, going to get it machined in the morning and get the car back on the road b4 rego runs out

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:02 pm:

yours has the single scoop bonnet, and the straight grill

i like the twin scoop and honeycomb grill a little better, but ur wagon is very nice ( clean 2 )

By Kevin (Kman) (68.40.184.98) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 04:39 pm:

Hey. I have the same licence plate (78 CVCC), cept it's Michigan.

By sonymmx200 (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:37 pm:

anyone have good ideas for a side skirt? I was going to look at the home depot and see what types of rubber or plastics they carry, but it would be nice if someone could point me to a better alternative.

By sonymmx200 (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:35 pm:

For those of you that are curious, the air dam is Kamie. I used to have a 77 Accord CVCC. Never installed the air dam, so I just trimmed about 3 inches on the ends and mounted it to my Civic. Dam cost me $200.00 bucks. The flares were a tough find. I don't know the brand name, but they sure help alot now when it rains or when I run over water. No more splashing on the body of my freshly washed wagon. The Honda optional wheels that I installed on the wagon made the stuck out about 1 1/2" inshes from the well and kicked up lots of water and debris. Next I'm going to paint the flares and dam white to match the body.

By sonymmx200 (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:30 pm:

Dang it, one more try,

By sonymmx200 (208.54.15.129) on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:24 pm:

Check out my wagon.

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 02:22 am:

made a few descions 2night,

going 2 leave the accord motor for now, will just do the head gasket and keep the old beast running as my daily.

Got lots of free time on my hand so i think i might just finish off the purple car now

By Hugh Johnson (Oneson1) (144.138.198.208) on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 01:58 am:

Glen, everything should bolt up, but don't use the std exhaust as it will choke a 1600/1800. with an 1800 you'll be looking to do a quick 100 mm hub conversion to get some decent brakes, use the later accord elec ign-no points-good! if you want to remain auto install an accord 3 speed with a taller final drive or just go crazy and install an accord 5 speed and 13/14 inch wheels, wayhey!! a great daily driver.

hugh

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 12:09 am:

Does anyone know how difficult it is to put an EL into the wagon ? will it bolt up including mounts ?

can i use the electronics from the ec motor of the wagon

does the hondamatic of the ec motor bolt up directly ?

thanks for your help

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 04:20 pm:

I wouldn't have a clue. Not many as you don't see them very often.

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 04:15 pm:

yeah i am thinking its probably better, who knows what the nephew has done to the motor, @ least the EL is in good condition

how many of these wagons do you estimate are going around ?

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 04:11 pm:

I've never been a fan of any of the iron block engines. The EL should be better than the EC (it's bigger ). I would imagine it's a straight bolt in but having never done it I don't know for certain.

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 04:02 pm:

Adrian wot do u think about the ec motor thats in it ??

any good or should i put the EL accord motor in

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 03:52 pm:

They're around, but there were never as many as hatches and not many left these days. I had one for a little while (also got given it) but never drove it as it was completely rusted out ... was the rustiest Civic I've ever seen!
I saw one driving along last weekend.

By lazy (139.130.237.102) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 03:28 pm:

Indeed. This is the first time I have even heard of an Australian wagon!

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 03:13 pm:

I think daily driver, but i want to keep it as orginal as possible as this is the first civic 1st gen wagon i have seen in Aus.

By Chaffneue (Chaffneue) (66.183.190.188) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 03:03 pm:

Wow... score.. what a neat car.. looks like the interior has been well kept.. That sun visor is hilarious.. Wonder if that's a specific honda accessory? what are your plans for it? daily driver?

-Richard

By Darrell--Arizona-- (68.109.151.121) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 03:00 pm:

Who ever put the bumper on upside down put the the steering wheel on the wrong side. Nice car though.

By Ramon (66.53.160.70) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 02:38 pm:

Nice 75'

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 02:25 pm:

hahahaha well picked adrian

that must of been the nephew when he sprayed it with that horrible wheel silver paint, i got a couple of spares in the garage, i will stick a new 1 on next weeknd.

so u like the car ? it still has 2 months rego on it, the lady was so happy to see it go 2 me

By Adrian (Evocivic) (203.42.97.141) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 02:18 pm:

Who put the front bumper on upside down?

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 02:07 pm:

Got the car for free. The lady had a heart attack and could no longer drive. She lent the car to her nephew who blew the head gasket. Im in the process of fixing the head now, and she should be running like a dream soon

Oh and that is a merc of some sort

here is a pic of the dash for you, i got the orginal mats in the back i just have to put them in

By Knifeboy (207.81.98.89) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 01:00 pm:

That black thing looks like a Mercedes C230 kompressor sport coupe.

By Kurt (205.250.75.226) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 11:43 am:

What in the world is that black thing to the left of the top photo?

By Sue (24.20.14.22) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 08:08 am:

Great car!
How much did you pay for it?

By Dave (216.209.113.82) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 06:54 am:

Cool! I have never seen a sun viser on a Civic. Looks realy odd but somehow I like it. My son is sitting beside me and says that "it makes it look cute like it is wearing a hat"
Got any pics of the front seats and dash? What does it look like under the hood?

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.95.104) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 01:16 am:

i like it, and the pho wood looks kinds neat too

By Glenn Biscan (211.30.144.154) on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 12:46 am:

i got this awesome little car off an old lady who had a heart attack and can no longer drive. It has 84,000 original k's on it, with the plastic on the door trims of every door. It has a weathershield and this strange metal thing over the windscreen that looks a bit like a sunshade type device.