Intake maifold piping, weber, +misc.

Civic1200 Discussion Board: : Intake maifold piping, weber, +misc.
By Tester (199.243.98.218) on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:39 am:

Testing

By aryl (216.99.201.134) on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 07:46 pm:

well the right side of the ballast isn't right. the ballast got really hot. i think i'll try the left side. its weird because there is a tag on the black wire saying "+ side threw cap". there is a cap with a black plastic cover going to the right side of the ballast. black/white wire. i didn't burn up the B. Resistor, luckily.

By aryl (216.99.194.217) on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 02:45 am:

one other thing.
i'm need to hook up the distribtor now. the dizzy i have has three wires and does not need the igniter module. i know that the black/yellow wire goes to the positive side of the coil. the blue wire goes to the negitive side. the black wire that connects the the side of the dizzy is what i'm wondering about. i think it should go on the ballast. which side should it go on? right now the right side has the + side of the coil running to it, as well as a black/white wire with, what i assume is, a cap in line. the left side has the positive lead from the fuel pump amd some other wire that goes into the bundle( i can't remember now). i see no point to put it on the right side as that would be the same as putting it directly on the coil. i've also read that the cap is involved somehow. i have read through a mess of old threads...

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.95.104) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 08:51 pm:

"must be a cvcc 1600 manifold then, as the EL (non CVCC) versions had no water running into the intake."

kurt, my 82/83 EL had the water lines. must be unique to the later version.

By bruce (63.26.84.243) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 07:47 pm:

email sent.

By Aryl (Aryl) (216.99.201.114) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 05:16 pm:

bruce, email me. if the engine runs good, i will be interested.

aye_ensign@hotmail.com

i got everything hooked up today. just a few more things till i can try to start it. man the weber simplified things...

By bruce (63.26.96.206) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 01:37 pm:

hope ya have a set of headers for it Aryl, if not I have an extra set for a 2 port, brand new still in the box.

By Kurt (205.250.112.91) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:22 am:

Ya I wonder?

Here is an 81 EL intake, clearly different than the one Bruce had pictured.

pic1

By aryl (216.99.194.249) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 10:01 am:

wait.... my pipe does have two nipples. great bruce thank you.
kurt, i wonder if the water cooled intake manifold is for the cvcc's benefit and why the EL's don't use that approach.

By aryl (216.99.194.249) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 09:56 am:

aside from my pipe only having one nipple, thats exactly what i wanted to know. thank you bruce.

By bruce (63.26.77.158) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 05:13 am:

the 1500,1600,1751 cvcc's intake manifolds are water cooled, both those outlets are hooked to the cooling system, the small tube on the manifold goes to the pipe that goes to the water pump, there should be two nipples on that pipe, hose from manifold goes on the inner one, the outer one is for your heater. the other hose goes to the port under the dizzy. here is a pic of my weber hookup, the open port you see on the base is for the brake booster. carb am pulling a 1500 engine today, I just finished my 1751 conversion.

By aryl (216.99.198.254) on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 02:22 am:

kurt, the tap on the side of the adapter(which goes directly through to the inside of the manifold) is much bigger than what i've seen most vacumn advance lines. this was a home job, so i'm not sure.
andrew, the rear tube on the manifold is much larger than the aux. tube coming off the water pipe. the manifold pipe in front of that one is about the same size. based on pipe sizes, i'd say that the aux. water pipe goes to the smaller front manifold pipe and the bigger pipes goe to the pipe next to the thermostat. so, since ther are both just a path for the coolant it shouln't matter unless there is a weird one way valve or something.
jarcaf, the heater tubes are hooked up correct i think... does it matter which way thay are hooked up?
if those two tubes on the pass. side of intake are cooant, than i see no other place to put the brake booster than the carb adapter tap.
thank you for the help. i'm going over tomarrow to work over this stuff.

By Kurt (205.250.112.91) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:36 pm:

must be a cvcc 1600 manifold then, as the EL (non CVCC) versions had no water running into the intake.

By -Andrew Smit- (Cvcc_Wagon) (154.20.95.104) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:19 pm:

"secondly, there are two pipes coming out the passenger side of the intake manifold. are these both for coolant? there is also a small pipe coming out next to the thermostat. does this hook up to one of the pipes in the manifold? there is also a small outlet comming off the water pipe. i'm wondering where this goes... i've looked through my haynes manual and things don't seem to make sense. thought i'd ask you guys. "

this is correct, just an intake and return. the rear tube in the manifold hooks to the water pipe and the front one hooks to the one by the thermostat

By Jarcaf (Jarcaf) (207.55.238.216) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 10:07 pm:

Also, it doesn't really matter which way you mount your carb, so long as it's not upside down:) Mine is backwards from most other civics around here, but it works fine. Besides, you want the auxiliary port to feed from the primary venturi anyways.

By Jarcaf (Jarcaf) (207.55.238.216) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 10:05 pm:

The manifolds for EK's are indeed water-cooled(or water-warmed...I don't know which it's for). Let me think...One of the smaller taps off the water pipes goes into the manifold(this pipe is a return line), so the other end must come from the pipe near the thermostat. Are all of your heater hoses connected too?

By Kurt (205.250.112.91) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 08:11 pm:

the small tube coming off the adapter goes to the vaccuum advance (drivers side).

The larger tube on the passenger side goes to the brake booster.

There should be no lines coming off the manifold for coolant (they are not water cooled). I'm not sure what they are for unless they were added after the fact? Unless of course you mean very small tubes off the adapter which can be plugged up.

The small outlet off the water pipe connects to a small outlet on the very bottom of the thermostat. its a bitch to connect with the motor in place. I assume this is what you mean by the "small pipe coming out next to the thermostat"??

There should be a bleeder on the top and next to it (at the front side of the thermostat) is for the temperature sensor to screw into.

I put my Weber on with the linkage on the driver's side.

Keep in mind I am referring to the North America drivers side above.

- Kurt

By Aryl (Aryl) (216.99.201.40) on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 07:26 pm:

well, i'm getting to the point where i'm hooking everything back up on my engine. i'm wondering about a few things. KIM i've got a 76 1200 with a 79 EK1. the intake manifold came off a 1.6 accord and has been modified for a weber carb(the cvcc port was ground out open with the rest of the mani).
firstly, the weber adapter has a tap on the side. that goes to the brake booster, correct? there is a one way valve in line with that hose.
secondly, there are two pipes coming out the passenger side of the intake manifold. are these both for coolant? there is also a small pipe coming out next to the thermostat. does this hook up to one of the pipes in the manifold? there is also a small outlet comming off the water pipe. i'm wondering where this goes... i've looked through my haynes manual and things don't seem to make sense. thought i'd ask you guys.

oh, one other thing. does it matter witch direction you mount a weber? with the linkage on the drivers side, the linkage hits the vacumn tap. this is the way i put on the last weber.

anyways, thank you.


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